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03/21/2023 03:30 PM Senate STATE AFFAIRS

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03:32:39 PM Start
03:33:30 PM Consideration of Governor Appointees
03:59:52 PM Adjourn
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Consideration of Governor’s Appointees: Alaska
Police Standards Council
Rebecca Hamon - King Salmon
Steve Dutra - North Pole
Daniel Carothers
Consideration of Governor’s Appointees:
Lieutenant Governor Successor
DEC Commissioner Jason Brune
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
            SENATE STATE AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
                         March 21, 2023                                                                                         
                           3:29 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Scott Kawasaki, Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Jesse Bjorkman                                                                                                          
Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                       
Senator Kelly Merrick                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Matt Claman, Vice Chair                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CONSIDERATION OF GOVERNOR APPOINTEES                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR SUCCESSOR                                                                                                 
Commissioner Jason Brune                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION ADVANCED                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALASKA POLICE STANDARDS COUNCIL                                                                                               
Rebecca Hamon - King Salmon                                                                                                     
Steve Dutra - North Pole                                                                                                        
Daniel Carothers - Douglas                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
JASON BRUNE, Commissioner                                                                                                       
Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC)                                                                                  
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified as the appointee for Lieutenant                                                                 
Governor Successor.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REBECCA HAMON, Appointee                                                                                                        
Alaska Police Standards Council                                                                                                 
Department of Public Safety (DPS)                                                                                               
King Salmon, Alaska                                                                                                             
POSITION  STATEMENT: Testified  for reappointment  to the  Alaska                                                             
Police Standards Council.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHIEF STEVE DUTRA, Appointee                                                                                                    
Alaska Police Standards Council                                                                                                 
Department of Public Safety (DPS)                                                                                               
North Pole, Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION  STATEMENT: Testified  for reappointment  to the  Alaska                                                             
Police Standards Council.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DANIEL CAROTHERS, Appointee                                                                                                     
Alaska Police Standards Council                                                                                                 
Department of Public Safety (DPS)                                                                                               
Douglas, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified as an  appointee to the public seat                                                             
on the Alaska Police Standards Council.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
3:32:39 PM                                                                                                                  
CHAIR  SCOTT KAWASAKI  called the  Senate State  Affairs Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 3:29  p.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order  were  Senators  Merrick,  Bjorkman,  and  Chair  Kawasaki.                                                               
Senator Wielechowski arrived soon thereafter.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
^CONSIDERATION OF GOVERNOR APPOINTEES                                                                                           
              CONSIDERATION OF GOVERNOR APPOINTEES                                                                          
                 LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR SUCCESSOR                                                                              
                ALASKA POLICE STANDARDS COUNCIL                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:33:30 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAWASAKI announced  the  consideration  of the  Lieutenant                                                               
Governor Successor  and welcomed Commissioner Jason  Brune to the                                                               
witness table.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:33:42 PM                                                                                                                    
JASON   BRUNE,   Commissioner,    Department   of   Environmental                                                               
Conservation (DEC),  Juneau, Alaska,  testified as  the appointee                                                               
for Lieutenant  Governor Successor.  He stated  that he  has been                                                               
proud to  serve under  Governor Dunleavy since  the first  day of                                                               
the governor's first term in 2018.  He spoke about his efforts to                                                               
earn the  legislature's trust over  the last four years  and that                                                               
one  of  his proudest  moments  was  when former  Senator  Begich                                                               
stated  on  the record  that  he  regretted  not voting  for  his                                                               
confirmation.  He is  honored to  be selected  as the  lieutenant                                                               
governor's  successor, but  he prays  it is  never necessary.  He                                                               
offered to answer questions.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:34:22 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI joined the committee.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:36:00 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI asked,  should  he assume  to  the role  of                                                               
lieutenant governor, if there were  things he would change within                                                               
the Division of Elections.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER BRUNE  responded that  he would rely  on legislators                                                               
to offer suggestions if changes need to be made.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI noted that the  new director of the Division                                                               
of  Elections  (DOE)  mentioned  the  possibility  of  the  state                                                               
dropping its membership in  the nonprofit Electronic Registration                                                               
Information Center  (ERIC), which is the  organization that works                                                               
with other member  states to verify peoples'  addresses to ensure                                                               
they   aren't  voting   in  multiple   jurisdictions.  He   asked                                                               
Commissioner Brune for his position on the matter.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER BRUNE  said he finds  the relationships he  has with                                                               
other states valuable, and he  believes that ensuring that people                                                               
don't   vote  multiple   times  in   multiple  jurisdictions   is                                                               
important. However,  he would need  to follow up with  a response                                                               
because  he wasn't  familiar with  ERIC and  what DOE  previously                                                               
presented to the committee.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI asked  if  he would  advocate to  eliminate                                                               
Ranked  Choice  Voting (RCV)  if  he  were to  become  lieutenant                                                               
governor.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER BRUNE  said he'd leave  that decision to  the people                                                               
to speak through  the current initiative to repeal RCV  or to the                                                               
legislature to take action through the legislative process.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:39:48 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAWASAKI opened  public testimony  on  the appointment  of                                                               
Commissioner  Brune  as  Lieutenant Governor  Successor;  finding                                                               
none, he closed public testimony.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:40:35 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MERRICK  moved to forward  the following name to  a joint                                                               
session for consideration:                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Lieutenant Governor Successor                                                                                                 
Commissioner Jason Brune - Juneau                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Signing  the   reports  regarding  appointments  to   boards  and                                                               
commissions in  no way reflects  individual members'  approval or                                                               
disapproval  of  the  appointees;   the  nominations  are  merely                                                               
forwarded to the full legislature for confirmation or rejection.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KAWASAKI  stated that without  objection the name  would be                                                               
forwarded.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:41:07 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI asked Rebecca Hamon  to introduce herself and tell                                                               
the committee why  she wanted to continue to serve  on the Alaska                                                               
Police Standards Council.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:41:48 PM                                                                                                                    
REBECCA  HAMON,  Appointee,   Alaska  Police  Standards  Council,                                                               
Department  of   Public  Safety   (DPS),  King   Salmon,  Alaska,                                                               
testified  for  reappointment  to  the  Alaska  Police  Standards                                                               
Council. She stated that she has  served on the council since she                                                               
was first appointed  by Governor Parnell. The council  has a good                                                               
process to help the state  have high-quality, well-trained police                                                               
that the people can support and  trust. The council also works to                                                               
ensure that this is a good  career. She would like to continue to                                                               
work on the regulations package  in process to ensure the changes                                                               
make sense for the state.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:44:27 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAWASAKI asked  her to  talk  about the  Crisis Now  model                                                               
where  a social  worker  or somebody  who  has behavioral  health                                                               
training is called  to evaluate the situation  and decide whether                                                               
law enforcement is needed.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. HAMON said  she works as an advocate for  victims of domestic                                                               
violence  and sexual  assault and  many of  the people  she works                                                               
with  struggle with  mental health  issues  or active  addiction.                                                               
Interactions  with law  enforcement are  often difficult  and her                                                               
organization  often  looks  for  other options  than  the  police                                                               
coming in  "hot" when there's  a call.  She said the  King Salmon                                                               
community  is working  to develop  a system  that relies  on peer                                                               
support and  crisis advocates to  be with the police  in response                                                               
situations  that have  a mental  health component.  She continued                                                               
that  a  team  approach  also   seems  important  to  change  the                                                               
trajectory of teen suicide.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:46:57 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI invited  Chief Dutra to identify  himself and tell                                                               
the committee  why he wants  to continue  to serve on  the Alaska                                                               
Police Standards Council.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:47:08 PM                                                                                                                    
CHIEF STEVE  DUTRA, Appointee,  Alaska Police  Standards Council,                                                               
Department  of Public  Safety (DPS),  North Pole,  Alaska, stated                                                               
that he  would like  to continue  to serve  on the  Alaska Police                                                               
Standards Council for  much the same reason as Ms.  Hamon. It's a                                                               
noble cause  and he  believes in the  mission of  maintaining the                                                               
standards of  police officers  statewide. He said  it's a  lot of                                                               
work but  it's rewarding.  He likes  to hold  the line  on police                                                               
standards and after  27 years he has the  experience and training                                                               
to know what it takes to be a good officer.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KAWASAKI asked what the  dropout rate is for applicants who                                                               
don't go on to be a police officer.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHIEF DUTRA said it's about half  but that number is trending up.                                                               
He added that it's very difficult  to keep officers until the end                                                               
of their careers.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KAWASAKI asked why that might be.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHIEF DUTRA  attributed it  to the lack  of a  retirement benefit                                                               
and that  public service doesn't  have the  draw it once  did. He                                                               
said  more needs  to be  done to  incentivize the  career because                                                               
people are opting for careers that are more lucrative.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:50:00 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MERRICK asked him to  share his thoughts on the statewide                                                               
policy manual.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHIEF DUTRA  said he's very  supportive. It's used by  38 states;                                                               
it's  beneficial  to small  departments  that  aren't capable  of                                                               
producing  a  police manual;  it's  been  vetted and  meets  high                                                               
police standards nationwide; it's  been vetted judicially; and it                                                               
helps an  agency that is  seeking accreditation  for professional                                                               
police standards.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:51:39 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI  opened public testimony  on the  reappointment of                                                               
Chief  Dutra  to the  Alaska  Police  Standards Council;  finding                                                               
none, he closed public testimony.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:52:11 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAWASAKI asked  Daniel Carothers  to identify  himself and                                                               
tell the  committee about his  interest in serving on  the Alaska                                                               
Police Standards Council.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:52:32 PM                                                                                                                    
DANIEL  CAROTHERS, Appointee,  Alaska  Police Standards  Council,                                                               
Department of  Public Safety (DPS), Douglas,  Alaska, stated that                                                               
he  has  lived  in  Alaska  for   46  years  and  has  a  diverse                                                               
background,   primarily   in  different   corrections   positions                                                               
throughout the  state. He served  as deputy commissioner  for the                                                               
Department of  Corrections under this administration  for several                                                               
months  before  he  retired,  and  just  before  that  he  ran  a                                                               
polygraph business  that included counseling and  field probation                                                               
polygraphs.  Currently he  commercial  fishes in  the summer  and                                                               
works  for a  pharmaceutical company  to try  to help  people who                                                               
have been incarcerated address their drug addictions.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:56:19 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MERRICK referenced a July  31, 2018 letter he wrote about                                                               
repealing Senate Bill  91. She asked if he feels  the changes the                                                               
legislature  has made  in law  enforcement policy,  including the                                                               
repeal of Senate Bill 91, have made a positive impact.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. CAROTHERS  said the  changes are  definitely better  than the                                                               
original law, but it's not perfect.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:57:51 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAWASAKI opened  public testimony  on  the appointment  of                                                               
Daniel Carothers to the Alaska  Police Standards Council; finding                                                               
none, he closed public testimony.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:58:45 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MERRICK moved  to forward the following names  to a joint                                                               
session for consideration:                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Alaska Police Standards Council                                                                                               
Rebecca Hamon - King Salmon                                                                                                     
Steve Dutra - North Pole                                                                                                        
Daniel Carothers - Douglas                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Signing  the   reports  regarding  appointments  to   boards  and                                                               
commissions in  no way reflects  individual members'  approval or                                                               
disapproval  of  the  appointees;   the  nominations  are  merely                                                               
forwarded to the full legislature for confirmation or rejection.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KAWASAKI found no objection and the names were forwarded.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:59:52 PM                                                                                                                    
There being no further business to come before the committee,                                                                   
Chair Kawasaki adjourned the Senate State Affairs Standing                                                                      
Committee meeting at 3:59 p.m.                                                                                                  

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